Day 237: Gaurābda 533, Caitra Māsa, Caturthi, 08 May 2019 – Wednesday

Caitanya Mahāprabhu had taken bath and He was sitting on the bank of the Godāvarī River. The Godāvarī River is very sacred. She is like Lakṣmī. He was sitting there on the bank. What was He thinking? “I will know the greatness of Śrīmatī Rādhikā and Her heart.” At once, this big crowd surrounded Him. So many learned scholars and Sanskrit paṇḍitas were reciting Vedic mantras and playing on a drum, he [Rāya Rāmānanda] was coming in a palanquin, as a king. When he took off all of his things and wanted to take bath, he saw nearby, not so nearby, but a little far away, the bāla sannyāsī. Bāla sannyāsī means a kiśora, a young sannyāsī. And while sitting, lakhs and lakhs of sun rays [emanated from Him]. He was astonishing.

“Who is he?” [thought Rāya Rāmānanda].

He was so attractive. But he was fearing the paṇḍitas. “What will they say?” That being a śūdra, he is going to a brāhmaṇa sannyāsī. His heart was so stolen and attracted that he could not check himself. He told the brāhmaṇas, “Wait for me,” and he left his crown and royal dress and, wearing one kaupīna, came like a beggar.

Srila Gurudeva – May 08, 1996 Netherlands

Actual Greed Comes in a Very Advanced Stage

Question: There are two types of kamanuga. One is for sambhogatmika and the other for tad tad bhava icchatmika. If somebody has the desire for sambhoga in raganuga, can he enter Vrndavana?

Srila Gurudeva: No, and neither will he enter Dvaraka. He will go to Naraka, hell, or he will remain here in this world. Sambhoga is a very bad thing. It is only proper in that aprakrta, transcendental realm.

Question: Why is it mentioned in the category of kamanuga in Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu?

Srila Gurudeva: The kamanuga described there is above the kama of this world. Kamanuga looks like kama, but it is pure prema. Kubja has sambhoga-icchamayi, but her prema has been discarded. The only good quality of her desire for sambhoga is that she wanted Krsna—not another person. It has therefore been accepted in Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu as a rasa, but her rasa was nikrsta, low-class.

Question: Is this only referring to Kubja?

Srila Gurudeva: In our stage we have so many worldly kamanas, material desires, to enjoy ourselves in these bodies. There will be some reaction in this material body, and therefore we should reject all these so-called practices and pray for that kamanuga which is practiced for obtaining tat tad bhava iccatmika.

Question: We are not asking for ourselves.

Srila Gurudeva: This is true for anyone. Many persons are doing this co-called practice for becoming a consort of Krsna, but they actually have no greed. We have nothing to say about them. We can say, or scriptures can say, something about those who really have greed. Actual greed comes in a very advanced stage of bhakti. In that stage one has no desire to enjoy this world or this material body. Is it clear or not?

Question: It is clear, but we were wondering why Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu appears to say that somebody can have that mood. It is stated under the category of kamanuga.

Srila Gurudeva: It has been stated only about those who actually already have greed. Their kama is pure because it is on the transcendental platform. For them it has been stated. On the other hand, although Kubja’s prema is also mentioned there, our acaryas don’t consider even her prema correct—what to speak of the feelings of conditioned souls here in this world. Kubja has no lust for any other person. Her nistha is only in Krsna, and from Krsna she wanted that thing—to enjoy. Our acaryas have accepted it as a type of prema, but at the same time they have rejected it. In real prema there is only the will that Krsna should be happy.

In this present state we want our own happiness. We consider that by serving Krsna we ourselves will be happy. When that stage of actual greed will come, by the association of that class of Gurudeva or Vaisnava, then all impurities will actually go away. This has been explained in Srimad Bhagavatam, in Rasa Pancadhyaya:

vikriditam vraja-vadhubhir idam ca visnoh
sraddhanvito nusrnuyad atha varnayed yah
bhaktim param bhagavati pratilabhya kaman
hrd-rogam asv apahinoty acirena dhirah

Some persons say that all anarthas and all kama, worldly lust, should disappear by our own efforts, and then we will do bhakti and then we will hear Rasa pancadyayi. However, Srila Visvantha Cakravarti Thakura writes in his commentary to this sloka that this is not the way. Sraddhanvita. When we will listen with sraddha, and here sraddha means greed, and with a strong thirst, then, in the ratio that we hear, anarthas will disappear. Pratilabhya kamam. First, pure prema will come, and it will wash away all worldly impurities. It is not that we first wash away our impurities and then prema will come. Prema will come first, and it will wash away all these things. There must be sraddha, however, that, “I want to serve Radha and Krsna.”


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